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Sorry, I cant be of help here, I simply dont know.  But the initial list is based on [[User:scafloc]] csv file, try dropping him a PM here or on the forum.--[[User:Mordin999|Mor]] 21:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 
Sorry, I cant be of help here, I simply dont know.  But the initial list is based on [[User:scafloc]] csv file, try dropping him a PM here or on the forum.--[[User:Mordin999|Mor]] 21:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
  
Corresponding chapters from the parts 1 and 2 of [[ADWD]] should be added.
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Corresponding chapters from the parts 1 and 2 of [[A Dance with Dragons]] should be added.
 
For [[A Storm of Swords]] this has been done like this: UK Paperback - SS 1 (First chapter of Steel and Snow)  
 
For [[A Storm of Swords]] this has been done like this: UK Paperback - SS 1 (First chapter of Steel and Snow)  
 
So for example:  
 
So for example:  
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A Dance With Dragons: Part 2 After the Feast (AF)
 
A Dance With Dragons: Part 2 After the Feast (AF)
 
--[[User:Mioranduh|Mioranduh]] 13:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Mioranduh|Mioranduh]] 13:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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Changed chapters per Mioranduh's request of 3 Dec 2012 (UTC). I know of no single-book UK paperback publication, so I overwrote the original UK paperback entry. The original page numbers for the first Part's chapters were correct, and I assume the original entry was before release of part 2 in paperback and the page numbers were estimated. Also, returned for minor edit to italicize the titles of the two parts.
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--[[User:Terr|Terr]] 21:30, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
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Corrected reference error for Dance with Dragons. UK Hardcover edition referenced ISBN for US hardcover edition. Moved reference to US hardcover, and added correct ISBN for UK hardcover edition. Also, added mention of other hardcover editions printed that may not match the chapter/page information listed.
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--[[User:Terr|Terr]] 16:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
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Provided consistent edition identification footnotes for each edition with chapter listings for all books. Though some of the older footnote information is not relevant to this specific page, I did not remove any of the previously provided information. I did, however clean it up. For instance, information regarding the ePub ISBN was removed from the paperback reference and a separate footnote was added to the ePub edition's header.
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--[[User:Terr|Terr]] 21:20, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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==Cat of the Canals==
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"Cat of the Canals III" is definitely contradictory to how we're numbering the chapters, so I changed it. However, after a second thought I'm not sure if the correct change should be to "Cat of the Canals" or "Cat of the Canals I" - it's somewhat a named chapter (not true name of a character, but that's the same thing as with "Alayne I") but also somewhat a descriptive title ("of the Canals" is not part of the real "name"). A similar issue will arise in the future with TWOW, will it be "Mercy" or "Mercy I"? (I would vote for "Mercy I" since it's very much the same situation as Sansa taking Alayne's name, but with Cat I'm not that certain due to its partial descriptiveness. What do you think is the appropriate title?)
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[[User:Kirt|Kirt]] ([[User talk:Kirt|talk]]) 09:59, 26 September 2015 (CDT)
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:Personally, I'd say that "Cat of the Canals" is not a name, in the sense that "Alayne", or even "Mercy", is. If the chapter had been titled "Cat", then yes. But "of the Canals" is a descriptive part, so I would place this in the "The Soiled Knight" and "The Spurned Suitor" category. I don't know whether others feel differently. The III behind "Cat of the Canals" indeed shouldn't have been there. --[[User:Rhaenys Targaryen|Rhaenys Targaryen]] ([[User talk:Rhaenys Targaryen|talk]]) 15:34, 26 September 2015 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 20:35, 26 September 2015

I have just acquired an UK paperback edition of AFFC (2011, ISBN 978-0-00-648612-1). Which, btw, has some new maps I don't think are in the Geography Portal yet (North, South, Beyond the Wall, Summer Sea, Iron Islands, King's Landing). May I fill the chapter page numbers? (e.g. Prologue at 1, The Prophet at 18, The Captain of Guards at 33, ... "Meanwhile, back at the Wall" at 777, Appendix at 779)? LuisDantas 15:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

I was hoping that scafolc or someone else will comment on this, because I am not really uptodate on this, but as far as I see there is not reason why you shouldnt. Also congrats on the new purchase, hope you have fun with it. one thing thou, the blue color there is to mark the version of the book which is used in the Concordance. --Mor 06:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. On another matter, are these paperbacks actually mass market paperbacks? I will post ISBN later, because two Bantam ppbs follow the exact page numbering of the us hardcovers. -- ETA: Ok, here they are. I collected the page numbers for AGOT, UK Mass-market paperback, ISBN 9780007428540; ACOK MMPB, both US (ISBN 9780553579901) and UK (9780006479895); and I checked the standard-sized US paperbacks for AGOT (ISBN 9780553381689) and ACOK (9780553381696), which seem to follow much the same numbering as the US Hardcovers. May I assume that "paperback", for the purposes of these tables, means "mass-market paperback"? Is it ok if I include de ISBN of the specific edition? LuisDantas 20:55, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I cant be of help here, I simply dont know. But the initial list is based on User:scafloc csv file, try dropping him a PM here or on the forum.--Mor 21:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Corresponding chapters from the parts 1 and 2 of A Dance with Dragons should be added. For A Storm of Swords this has been done like this: UK Paperback - SS 1 (First chapter of Steel and Snow) So for example: A Dance With Dragons: Part 1 Dreams and Dust (DD) A Dance With Dragons: Part 2 After the Feast (AF) --Mioranduh 13:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Changed chapters per Mioranduh's request of 3 Dec 2012 (UTC). I know of no single-book UK paperback publication, so I overwrote the original UK paperback entry. The original page numbers for the first Part's chapters were correct, and I assume the original entry was before release of part 2 in paperback and the page numbers were estimated. Also, returned for minor edit to italicize the titles of the two parts. --Terr 21:30, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Corrected reference error for Dance with Dragons. UK Hardcover edition referenced ISBN for US hardcover edition. Moved reference to US hardcover, and added correct ISBN for UK hardcover edition. Also, added mention of other hardcover editions printed that may not match the chapter/page information listed. --Terr 16:30, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Provided consistent edition identification footnotes for each edition with chapter listings for all books. Though some of the older footnote information is not relevant to this specific page, I did not remove any of the previously provided information. I did, however clean it up. For instance, information regarding the ePub ISBN was removed from the paperback reference and a separate footnote was added to the ePub edition's header. --Terr 21:20, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Cat of the Canals

"Cat of the Canals III" is definitely contradictory to how we're numbering the chapters, so I changed it. However, after a second thought I'm not sure if the correct change should be to "Cat of the Canals" or "Cat of the Canals I" - it's somewhat a named chapter (not true name of a character, but that's the same thing as with "Alayne I") but also somewhat a descriptive title ("of the Canals" is not part of the real "name"). A similar issue will arise in the future with TWOW, will it be "Mercy" or "Mercy I"? (I would vote for "Mercy I" since it's very much the same situation as Sansa taking Alayne's name, but with Cat I'm not that certain due to its partial descriptiveness. What do you think is the appropriate title?) Kirt (talk) 09:59, 26 September 2015 (CDT)

Personally, I'd say that "Cat of the Canals" is not a name, in the sense that "Alayne", or even "Mercy", is. If the chapter had been titled "Cat", then yes. But "of the Canals" is a descriptive part, so I would place this in the "The Soiled Knight" and "The Spurned Suitor" category. I don't know whether others feel differently. The III behind "Cat of the Canals" indeed shouldn't have been there. --Rhaenys Targaryen (talk) 15:34, 26 September 2015 (CDT)